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		<description><![CDATA[edited comment
After airing that on TV ( youtube.com/watch?v=BXejOVtHZcE ),

the government arrested yesterday night journalist Spiros Karatzaferis (ART TV - ekkentriko@gmail.com) in an effort to silence him before he reveals everything sourced from the documents he had available from Anonymous and another source which he preferred for the time being not to name.
He was arrested in the middle of the street as he was returning home. He was arrested allegedly for an old pending small offence agains press. (He was released today)
In the afromentioned video, he is hosting

a) Prof. Mrs Zoe Georganda (ex-Board Member of ELSTAT) who revealed the fraud of the deficit and of the debt organised with the help of the president of ELSTAT (Hellenic Statistics Authority) Mr. Georgiou who was at the SAME time working for IMF... (after him taking this position, it didn&#039;t take long until IMF invaded Greece...)
b) the ex-vice president of ELSTAT Prof. Mr. Nickos Logothetis who has also being threatened, intimidated, blackmailed
c)reporter/presenter Kostas Wills .
Prof. Mrs. Georganda explains the continuous manipulation of the deficit and the debt of the country.
The 2009 real deficit number was 3.9% and it was methodically inflated to 15.8% by Mr. Georgiou. This was the excuse to bring IMF in Greece, the reason of MOUs and loans to load Greece with fraudulent debt.
All evidence has been submitted to the D.A. and other authorities for further investigation.
They also discuss the impact of speculations domestic and international on the country.
The reaction of  Mr. Georgiou to the request for evidence and explanation from Profs. Georganda &amp; Logothetis was irrational. Mr. Karatzaferis questions the morals of the politicians and the investigating committee of the Parliament, how they cover up for each other. He threatens to reveal sensitive information especially about Evangelos Venizelos (new president of PASOK - Greek socialist party and co-government today). Mrs Balfousia (representative of ex-minister of Finance Papakonstantinou) was also doubting the quality of data provided by Mr. Georgiou. Papakonstantinou (ex-min fin) advised Prof. Georganda not to object to the instructions of Mr. Georgiou because he is instructed by EUROSTAT!!!! She was advised only to listen and sign as all the data is not a statistical matter but A POLITICAL MATTER ONLY.


That is to say the number communicated is NOT the real number, but what they are INSTRUCTED is to communicate the EUROPEAN political benefit. The number communicated is NOT reflecting the real number in any way.


Prof. Georganda and Mr.Wills reveal how ALL the gold of Greece has been taken to the BANK OF ENGLAND &amp; about the 2.8bn exPM Simitis got from Goldman Sachs but he later declared 21bn. Prof. Georganda explains how Greek and European Regulations were violated and how DAs have retrieved crucial data from Mr. Georgiou&#039;s (pres. of ELSTAT) computer. The qualification and skills of Mr. Georgiou for the position are questioned and it comes out that he is a good friend and ex-classmate of ex-min-fin Papakonstantinou.

It is discussed:

How he wanted to tune the minutes eliminating any trace of objection of the board members.

How Mr. Venizelos passed a law which gave Mr. Georgiou the right not to pay anymore the Profss. and withhold their salaries.

Profss talk about the unskilled-subordinates (among which agriculturists...and music teachers...) of Mr. Georgiou receiving insane salaries of up to 80,000EUR*. Mr. Georgiou in an effort to avoid the &quot;nuisance&quot; of the ex-board members has stopped any kind of meeting with the board.

Evidence is provided about the instruction of EUROSTAT of how to wipe-out the board and pass that wipe out method in the legislation. The dubious role of another foreigner in the office is underlined.

The Profss explained how Mr. Georgiou orchestrated the prosecution of Prof Logothetis (ex-vice President of ELSTAT) where, however, more evidence came out against Mr. Georgiou. It is explained how this was the vehicle for CDS &amp; about information leakage beyond the obvious. It is explained how the best friend of exPM Mr. Margellos and the brother of the ex-PM G. Papandreou, Adrikos Papandreou (co-owner of UNIGESTION in Switzerland &amp; at the same time prof in the UoAthens whose address he had declared as Unigestion&#039;s address...) made a fortune out of CDS and how the government changed the regulation for that (previously you should be also a bondholder and later this condition is removed). 233bnEuros were received by the banks, however, this amount was not available in the market which equals the current debt.

The panel also discusses:

How they stole the health and pension funds and turned those into bonds, practically stripping off the affected employees and pensioners (who had paid this money in the form of retentions from their salaries to turn it into a later benefit).

How the election result was manipulated by fictionally increasing the voters presenting deceased and new borns as voters...

How Mr Georgiou has changed all the statistical data from 2005 onwards eroding even the census records and altering also births and deaths data.


* Mind you that salary currently is at the level of 360Euro net.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>edited comment<br />
After airing that on TV ( youtube.com/watch?v=BXejOVtHZcE ),</p>
<p>the government arrested yesterday night journalist Spiros Karatzaferis (ART TV &#8211; <a href="mailto:ekkentriko@gmail.com">ekkentriko@gmail.com</a>) in an effort to silence him before he reveals everything sourced from the documents he had available from Anonymous and another source which he preferred for the time being not to name.<br />
He was arrested in the middle of the street as he was returning home. He was arrested allegedly for an old pending small offence agains press. (He was released today)<br />
In the afromentioned video, he is hosting</p>
<p>a) Prof. Mrs Zoe Georganda (ex-Board Member of ELSTAT) who revealed the fraud of the deficit and of the debt organised with the help of the president of ELSTAT (Hellenic Statistics Authority) Mr. Georgiou who was at the SAME time working for IMF&#8230; (after him taking this position, it didn&#8217;t take long until IMF invaded Greece&#8230;)<br />
b) the ex-vice president of ELSTAT Prof. Mr. Nickos Logothetis who has also being threatened, intimidated, blackmailed<br />
c)reporter/presenter Kostas Wills .<br />
Prof. Mrs. Georganda explains the continuous manipulation of the deficit and the debt of the country.<br />
The 2009 real deficit number was 3.9% and it was methodically inflated to 15.8% by Mr. Georgiou. This was the excuse to bring IMF in Greece, the reason of MOUs and loans to load Greece with fraudulent debt.<br />
All evidence has been submitted to the D.A. and other authorities for further investigation.<br />
They also discuss the impact of speculations domestic and international on the country.<br />
The reaction of  Mr. Georgiou to the request for evidence and explanation from Profs. Georganda &amp; Logothetis was irrational. Mr. Karatzaferis questions the morals of the politicians and the investigating committee of the Parliament, how they cover up for each other. He threatens to reveal sensitive information especially about Evangelos Venizelos (new president of PASOK &#8211; Greek socialist party and co-government today). Mrs Balfousia (representative of ex-minister of Finance Papakonstantinou) was also doubting the quality of data provided by Mr. Georgiou. Papakonstantinou (ex-min fin) advised Prof. Georganda not to object to the instructions of Mr. Georgiou because he is instructed by EUROSTAT!!!! She was advised only to listen and sign as all the data is not a statistical matter but A POLITICAL MATTER ONLY.</p>
<p>That is to say the number communicated is NOT the real number, but what they are INSTRUCTED is to communicate the EUROPEAN political benefit. The number communicated is NOT reflecting the real number in any way.</p>
<p>Prof. Georganda and Mr.Wills reveal how ALL the gold of Greece has been taken to the BANK OF ENGLAND &amp; about the 2.8bn exPM Simitis got from Goldman Sachs but he later declared 21bn. Prof. Georganda explains how Greek and European Regulations were violated and how DAs have retrieved crucial data from Mr. Georgiou&#8217;s (pres. of ELSTAT) computer. The qualification and skills of Mr. Georgiou for the position are questioned and it comes out that he is a good friend and ex-classmate of ex-min-fin Papakonstantinou.</p>
<p>It is discussed:</p>
<p>How he wanted to tune the minutes eliminating any trace of objection of the board members.</p>
<p>How Mr. Venizelos passed a law which gave Mr. Georgiou the right not to pay anymore the Profss. and withhold their salaries.</p>
<p>Profss talk about the unskilled-subordinates (among which agriculturists&#8230;and music teachers&#8230;) of Mr. Georgiou receiving insane salaries of up to 80,000EUR*. Mr. Georgiou in an effort to avoid the &#8220;nuisance&#8221; of the ex-board members has stopped any kind of meeting with the board.</p>
<p>Evidence is provided about the instruction of EUROSTAT of how to wipe-out the board and pass that wipe out method in the legislation. The dubious role of another foreigner in the office is underlined.</p>
<p>The Profss explained how Mr. Georgiou orchestrated the prosecution of Prof Logothetis (ex-vice President of ELSTAT) where, however, more evidence came out against Mr. Georgiou. It is explained how this was the vehicle for CDS &amp; about information leakage beyond the obvious. It is explained how the best friend of exPM Mr. Margellos and the brother of the ex-PM G. Papandreou, Adrikos Papandreou (co-owner of UNIGESTION in Switzerland &amp; at the same time prof in the UoAthens whose address he had declared as Unigestion&#8217;s address&#8230;) made a fortune out of CDS and how the government changed the regulation for that (previously you should be also a bondholder and later this condition is removed). 233bnEuros were received by the banks, however, this amount was not available in the market which equals the current debt.</p>
<p>The panel also discusses:</p>
<p>How they stole the health and pension funds and turned those into bonds, practically stripping off the affected employees and pensioners (who had paid this money in the form of retentions from their salaries to turn it into a later benefit).</p>
<p>How the election result was manipulated by fictionally increasing the voters presenting deceased and new borns as voters&#8230;</p>
<p>How Mr Georgiou has changed all the statistical data from 2005 onwards eroding even the census records and altering also births and deaths data.</p>
<p>* Mind you that salary currently is at the level of 360Euro net.</p>
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